Episode 63 – History of the Necronomicon & Ibid

We’re having a look at some of Lovecraft’s legend-making, led by special guest, archaeologist Dr. James Holloway (sorry for the spotty audio quality in the call recording!).

Over at Yog-Sothoth.com, you can also hear James’ lecture on the relationship between Lovecraft and archaeology, “The Lairs of Cthulhu.”

Next week, we’re snakin’ it up with The Curse of Yig!

Post Comment 16 comments on “Episode 63 – History of the Necronomicon & Ibid

  • Justin on

    Another great show guys! I’ve heard James Holloway’s lecture “The Layers of Cthulhu” before over at Yog-Sothoth.com and found it fascinating. Have you all listened to Dr. Justin Woodman’s four part lecture series “H.P. Lovecraft and the Occult”? Again fascinating stuff.

    However, I’m not sure showing “Ibid.” to anyone who is a Lovecraft skeptic is going to change their minds. I think the piece is funny but others will probably just find it rather droll.

  • Matthew on

    I had two mates, who many years ago went into the British Museum and asked at the guide desk where the necronomicon was. Apparently the museum guide pulled out a laminated card that said ‘The Necronomicon does not exist and the museum does not hold a copy – it is a work of fiction’. That had to be kind of embarrassing (and no it wasn’t me that asked – it really was two of my friends)

  • Brown Jenkin on

    The copy of the Necronomicon held at Miskatonic University must be the same one mentioned in “The Dunwich Horror”.

  • Rage on

    The bad line makes James sounds like he is a
    Mi-Go brain box.
    Now that is an idea for the podcast of Whisperer in darkness change guest voice to sound like a brain box.

  • Jeff Campbell on

    Great episode. It occurred to me that Star Trek uses the same technique of using two real references then a fictional one when they want to grandly recall how what they are doing has a long history. I can’t think of an actual example, but it would be something like, “The Magna Carta, The Declaration of Independence, and The Codices of Eridani V…” I vaguely remember some comedian had a bit about that, but I cannot remember the name.

  • Bob on

    Hey, great to see that you guys are both back and smokin!

    Glad I didn’t delete that link when things started going patchy πŸ™‚

  • Jay Dugger on

    James Blish’s short story “More Light” involves two men who scoff at the notion of any book causing insanity. (Blish has a great line to that effect, which I will not quote.) The scoffing continues as the two men read a genuine copy of the play “The King in Yellow,” at least until the very end of short story. Blish includes a near-complete text of the play in the short story without spoiling the sense of the eerie.

    “More Light” appears in two anthologies: The Hastur Cycle and “Alchemy & Academe.”

  • Matthew on

    That reminds me of something else they said in Star Trek and I think it was Garack from DS9 (showing what a Trekkie I am now) who said ‘A lie is best hidden between two truths’.

  • Brown Jenkin on

    Let’s just be thankful Derleth didn’t try to start an actual religion based on these fictional texts.

  • Keith McCaffety on

    I love ‘Ibid!’ Laughed out loud all the way through it! The dark rites of the prairie dogs! Genius!

    Jeff Campbell: I remember Jay Leno had a routine about Capt. Kirk doing that very thing back in the 80s. When he was funny.

  • Utilitarius on

    Another fine show. One problem I had, however, was the ridiculous comparison between Conan and the Necronomicon, and Conan’s milieu with Arkham.

  • Reber Clark on

    Ya know…Dino DeLaurentiis really trashed the Conan stories. They ARE NOT retooled gladiator fables, which is what his company made them into. Read Robert E. Howard’s original works and try, please try, to erase Arnold and that crappy Italian-baroque sword from your experience.

    Otherwise … I laughed all the way through the Conan (Arnold) stuff!

  • Brandon on

    The White Ship! πŸ˜€

    Not the white ship -_-

    Great show! Great guest!

  • old book on

    Brown Jenkin:

    Derleth was a Catholic. They’re not allowed to start new religions. It falls under the heresy statutes or something like that. I think the most they’re allowed is to argue persuasively for one view or another, based on scripture. Scripture, you know, the holy writings that don’t need to mention explicitly anything about a celibate priesthood, because it’s so obvious. Or, if you’re Jewish, the scripture which no where says you should cover your head with a little cap thing to be closer to God.

    The best part, and the only good part, sadly, was the part where Arnold Schwarzenegger is trying to get into his character as Conan. Agreed as well that the movies didn’t do the Conan cycle justice, but the Central Asian void cult thing was pretty cool in that first film.

  • HrothgirOD on

    “one is persistently rumoured to form part of the collection of a celebrated American millionaire.”
    That, I believe is Lindbergh, who seemed to hang out in some odd company – occultists, and mystic masonry (as opposed to the other sort which is more a 4H club for the rich). Alexis Carrel is the only name I can name of the top of my head, but there seem to have been rumours swirling for some little time…
    It’s a theme picked up in The Necronauts, wherein the bad guy facing off against Houdini, Fort, Conan-Doyle and HPL is pretty clearly Lindbergh in all but name (he is never named)

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