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« on: May 23, 2012, 08:51:44 PM » |
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While just a basic Kaiju/ mech monster movie, what with del Toro's well known penchant for HPL and his love for groundbreaking creature design on film, you have to wonder just how this movie will pan out. It sounds fabulous at any rate, based on the synposis- http://collider.com/pacific-rim-synopsis/168204/ |
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T. Kelly Lee
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2012, 07:57:36 AM » |
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Robots vs. monsters?
I have to ask myself - why is every director in Hollywood just a ten year old boy. While this might be something of a popcorn cruncher, personally I'm bored to death of films with bunches of 'asplosions. I'm probably mercilessly picky, but these Avengers/Battleship summer blockbusters are just keeping me right out of the cinema.
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Bob Lovecraft
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 08:27:12 AM » |
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Because explosions and titties are what American want. Right? Because movie producers have such a great grasp on what we really want to watch. Of course, the summer blockbusters do make the money, so, yeah...  Bob |
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T. Kelly Lee
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 08:30:23 AM » |
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Because explosions and titties are what American want. Right? Because movie producers have such a great grasp on what we really want to watch. Of course, the summer blockbusters do make the money, so, yeah... Bob Yeah, that's it. But with decade-long trend of comic book super hero movies, man they're all the SAME STORY!! Don't people get tired of seeing the same story/different hero every freakin' summer? Ugh. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2012, 08:41:48 AM » |
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Because explosions and titties are what American want. Right? Because movie producers have such a great grasp on what we really want to watch. Of course, the summer blockbusters do make the money, so, yeah... Bob Just explosions, somehow they forgot the second half of the equasion, or more accurately they decided there is more money if they guys bring dates and for some reason they've decided that gratuitous female toplessness does not attract the ladies. I think del Toro's Mountains of Madness would have been a perfect summer movie for me. Turn that AC up to full blast! |
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Eric Lofgren
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 11:45:15 AM » |
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Seriously, I'll take anything right now as long as it isn't zombies. Or vampires. But most especially zombies. I am so tired of seeing that one note repeated ad infinitum.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 12:07:54 PM » |
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Seriously, I'll take anything right now as long as it isn't zombies. Or vampires. But most especially zombies. I am so tired of seeing that one note repeated ad infinitum.
Yeah. Zombies and vampires are dead to me. (Man, I've been wanting to use that joke.) I'm afraid Twilight may have ruined the vampire trope for quite a long time. And zombies have just gotten boring. The satire aspect of "Cabin in the Woods" with regard to these was its saving grace! |
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 07:39:15 PM » |
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Quote, "I'm afraid Twilight may have ruined the vampire trope for quite a long time. And zombies have just gotten boring. The satire aspect of "Cabin in the Woods" with regard to these was its saving grace! "
And then there is Johnny Depp's "Dark Shadows" movie with will do nothing to revive Vampires allure, because it really is, well, lifeless.
A shame really, since the pre-Barnabas storyline in the tv show really seemed Lovecraftian to me, especially with it's hint of incestial taint with the Phoenix storyline and the Ghost of Bill Malloy (which seems to owe something to the Terrible Old Man of Kingsport fame).
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Bob Lovecraft
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 08:18:00 AM » |
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All of that said, I think Del Toro may have ruined AtMoM, particularly casting Tom Cruise in any part of this film. I really ant to like Del Toro more than I do, but in all honesty, the Hellobyy movies were kind of flat. "Pan's Labyrinth" was pretty good, but I thought it could have been much more of a sinister ending. The way it wraps up, to me, is just a let down. I just find it difficult to get behind the guy anymore.
Bob
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2012, 09:18:42 AM » |
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Yeah, that's the thing - there are those that see something in Del Toro that I just don't see. He is very good at film artistry, of course. But anyone that would put Tom Cruise in anything remotely Lovecraftian is just...goofy. He spent 20 years coming up with ideas for Pan. But, honestly, I still think his best film was Devil's Backbone. It's like the more Hollywood money he gets access to, the lamer his films get. He could do better without the FX. And don't get me STARTED on Dark Shadows...one of my favorite shows of all time. At some point it went from being a gothic horror soap opera to an effing camp comedy. WHY?  ? Why in the name of all things unholy could they have not done a damn horror picture??? WHY A COMEDY??? Ugh. That property is soiled forever. If you're a horror film fan, right now we're at a real low point. |
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2012, 01:47:10 PM » |
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re: Dark Shadows failing miserably> Tim Burton. 'nuff said  |
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2012, 02:31:14 PM » |
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Yeah, I'm not crazy about any of Tim Burton's work, not even in his heyday.
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Bob Lovecraft
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2012, 08:28:52 AM » |
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I like Tim Burton's stuff in general, and admire Johnny Depp for continuing to make movies with him even though they are not huge money makers. To me, it shows a friendship based on making movies that they both like, not necessarily making movies that will make them rich. Of course, I will Netflix "Dark Shadows" eventually, but I won't pay direct money to go see it at the theater.
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 03:38:59 PM » |
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"I like Tim Burton's stuff in general, and admire Johnny Depp for continuing to make movies with him even though they are not huge money makers. To me, it shows a friendship based on making movies that they both like, not necessarily making movies that will make them rich. Of course, I will Netflix "Dark Shadows" eventually, but I won't pay direct money to go see it at the theater.
Bob"
Dark Shadows may have suffered from Depp overextending himself, since he was shooting The Lone Ranger at the same time (and that apparently is/was a very troubled production). His acting was certainly distracted, even when he was chewing scenery with Angelique or when he was out rapping with hippies he then has to kill.
It probably also suffered budgetarily from the massive failure of John Carter of Mars. (And that movie wasn't bad, it just wasn't an "amazing"
movie which it pretty much had to be to break even).
((Of course the real reason Shadows and John Carter didn't do well, was because the didn't get a real "Old Hollywood" star like Chad Fifer to star in it.....))
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2012, 08:25:49 AM » |
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John Carter. Cowboys vs. Aliens. Avatar. Etc. Etc. We just keep getting the SAME story over and over again: "Desperate fight leads to need for giant special effects battle." I'd argue all the more successful recent comic book films have fallen into that same mode. Hollywood has fallen in love with the FX of late and they're just hacking out type to get to a bigger and badder fight. But once you've seen an Avatar or the recent reboot of Batman, the films that follow in their wake just aren't very interesting. Bigger FX in the next film are just like a junky upping his fix to chase the old high.
Where we could benefit from "old Hollywood" is in the writing. Yeah, yeah I read the spoiler script to Prometheus and I have to admit that that thing just has a damn good story underneath it all. How often are you captivated by a script? The script to John Carter or even Avengers wouldn't read like anything. You could just write that movie with storyboards.
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