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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2012, 09:33:10 AM » |
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We couldn't sell through iTunes, even if we wanted to. They don't do paid podcasts. HOWEVER, you can use your iTunes, or other podcatcher, just as you would the regular show. iTunes will prompt you for a user name and password, you enter it, and from then on, it just comes in as new episodes are released, just like the old show.
If you just download from the site, then there be a subscriber section for you to get all your goodies.
We'll have DETAILED explanations for all of it when the time comes.
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Ruth - CthulhuChick
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2012, 09:48:28 AM » |
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At that rate, it's totally worth the subscription!
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2012, 10:23:51 AM » |
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At that rate, it's totally worth the subscription!
Hell yeah. And the idea of being able to make a career of podcasting fills me with the desire to subscribe, if for no other reason then I love the idea of someone being able to make a living doing what they enjoy as opposed to doing what they enjoy in spite of what they do for a living. More power to Chris and Chad. Bob |
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2012, 10:31:40 AM » |
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Yeah, $7 (rounding up, why the hell not) for, what, 12 shows? That's a steal.
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2012, 03:42:27 PM » |
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The more I think about it, the happier I am with the boys' plans. I just wish I didn't have to wait till next week for them to start!  |
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2012, 04:17:25 PM » |
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Argh. This will be complicated for me. The money is not the problem (what is that, around 5.50€?), I just have no idea how to pay for things on the internet.  |
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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2012, 03:52:22 AM » |
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It was great to get an explanation of how the podcast was done. Thanks for waiting for a good time and place to share. Thanks so much guys for an incredible podcast. Especially one that continues! Looking forward to the future. Most certainly will be here! ____________________ Des Lunettes De Soleil |
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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2012, 01:29:11 PM » |
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I can either mail cash to a postal address or ask someone to paypal it over for me, but then it won't be in my name, I assume.
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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2012, 04:01:46 PM » |
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I can either mail cash to a postal address or ask someone to paypal it over for me, but then it won't be in my name, I assume.
You can put a note in the paypal thing. |
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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2012, 04:25:55 PM » |
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Am I the only one who thinks that the switch to a paid model is a bad idea? I don't think anyone here would say the podcast isn't worth it, and I'm inclined to say it's worth far more than $6.66/3 months. However, without meaning to insult anyone, I think saying that nobody would have trouble paying $6.66 is ignorant. Chad and Chris have said that they started reading Lovecraft in their early teens; I wonder how many young people listen to this show, and how many of them have the means to pay? I'm sure some of them do, and others have nice parents or other relatives, but not all of them will be able to make the switch.
Ultimately, this switch is going to reduce the number of people who listen to this show. Some can't pay for it, some aren't willing to, and others will be indignant about the switch. You could say that those people don't deserve to listen to the show, and in some cases you may be right. However, those people won't tell their friends and relatives about the show they don't listen to, and maybe some of those friends and relatives would deserve to listen to it more.
I understand that they believe they deserve to be paid for their work, and I wholeheartedly agree. I think it would be wonderful for them to make a living doing this podcast. However, there are other ways to accomplish that. I'm upset they didn't even try a kickstarter before deciding to switch to a paid model. Maybe it wouldn't have worked out, but it wouldn't have hurt to try. And the great thing about that is people can pay what they can afford. If they can't afford $26.64/year, maybe they can afford $5/year, and the slack will be picked up by the one person that can pay $100/year for the added benefit of getting to have lunch with one of the dynamic duo.
I'm a casual listener and a student, and despite expecting an enormous backlash of internet vitriol, I'm going to say that I'm going to stop listening to the show. Yes, $6.66 isn't a lot of money, but I have a tight budget (I've calculated my student loan for this fall based on spending no more than $10/day on living expenses including food, soap, gas, etc.), and although this show is truly amazing, there are other things I'd rather spend my spare change on. Also, I know I'm crazy, but listening to every fourth episode kinda seems like reading every fourth chapter in a book, so I probably won't listen to the free episodes either.
I understand that quite a few people disagree with me, but I hope I've sounded reasonable, and that my perspective might help.
PS to Chad and Chris: If you are worried about spending air time asking for donations or advertising for your sponsors, know that I regularly use your show as an example to my friends of how a podcast can do those things without sounding like they sold out. You two are super classy.
tl;dr I think switching to a paid model will negatively impact the listener base, and I wish they'd try something else first.
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« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2012, 07:28:05 PM » |
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However, those people won't tell their friends and relatives about the show they don't listen to, and maybe some of those friends and relatives would deserve to listen to it more.
First, if the back catalog remains available at no cost as it is now, then I will have no problems continuing to point people over here. Second, if I'm remembering correctly, one of four 'casts a month will continue to be free. The free episode will be the one that talks about Lovecraft's essay. The three paid will be analysis of the referenced stories themselves. So the Lovecraft material remains free, it's the other stuff that will be on the premium feed. Rather than ragequitting, you should consider continuing to download the free monthly episode. |
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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2012, 08:39:00 PM » |
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First, if the back catalog remains available at no cost as it is now, then I will have no problems continuing to point people over here.
Second, if I'm remembering correctly, one of four 'casts a month will continue to be free. The free episode will be the one that talks about Lovecraft's essay. The three paid will be analysis of the referenced stories themselves. So the Lovecraft material remains free, it's the other stuff that will be on the premium feed.
Rather than ragequitting, you should consider continuing to download the free monthly episode.
First, you make a good point about the back catalog. They did great work on the writings of the man himself, and I'm glad that will remain available for myself and others to enjoy free of charge. It's a great source of knowledge and entertainment. Second, I'm glad they're offering some of their material for free. I'm sure many people will continue to enjoy the podcast in that form. All I meant to say is that some people won't. Some people might feel that a podcast that updates once per month isn't worth keeping tack of, and others, like me, might be put off by the amount of material that they don't get access to. Speaking of which... I understand that my reasons for quitting the show might not make sense to you, but I hardly think it deserves to be called ragequitting. I find unappealing the thought of once a month getting to hear about all the stuff I won't get to hear about, and so I shall opt out. No rancor involved. If we can keep 8% of our audience, we can do this.
Lastly, however, I wish to emphasize that what upsets me is that this move is not necessary. Why keep only 8% of the audience? Why not keep 100% and at least try to keep running it for free? Plenty of podcasts are done for free, and with their clearly affluent listeners, I imagine a kickstarter or donation drive would go quite well. It is my opinion, and I'm sure others will disagree, that it's better to at least try and keep their audience intact, before sacrificing 92% of it in order to start charging an admission fee. If they tried, and failed, to acquire the funds in a more creative manner, I would not begrudge them their choice to acquire them in a more traditional one. I just hate to see an opportunity like this pass by. |
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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2012, 09:00:17 PM » |
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I've really been loving the show, and I think it's perfectly okay that they're trying to get some money so that they can keep doing what they're doing. I have to say that I'm kind of put off by the new subscription model, though. Not to say that I begrudge them the money, of course, because I really don't - but I don't think that the subscription model is the best way to go. The first podcasts I ever listened to were the Escape Artists trio - the excellent Escape Pod, Podcastle and Pseudopod - and they've had a donation model for a long time that seems to have served them very well.
I'm not going to be stopping listening to the podcast due to the change, and I don't even think that the $6.66 is a bad price - it's awesome - but I think that you should consider a donation model - like the Escape Artists podcasts and the Drabblecast and others - or even go for a Kickstarter, like Stealth suggested.
In other news: I love the idea of "Chris and Chad Go Back To School." I'd be all over that show.
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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2012, 10:41:40 PM » |
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I've really been loving the show, and I think it's perfectly okay that they're trying to get some money so that they can keep doing what they're doing. I have to say that I'm kind of put off by the new subscription model, though. Not to say that I begrudge them the money, of course, because I really don't - but I don't think that the subscription model is the best way to go. The first podcasts I ever listened to were the Escape Artists trio - the excellent Escape Pod, Podcastle and Pseudopod - and they've had a donation model for a long time that seems to have served them very well.
I'm not going to be stopping listening to the podcast due to the change, and I don't even think that the $6.66 is a bad price - it's awesome - but I think that you should consider a donation model - like the Escape Artists podcasts and the Drabblecast and others - or even go for a Kickstarter, like Stealth suggested.
In other news: I love the idea of "Chris and Chad Go Back To School." I'd be all over that show.
FWIW, there are complaints about any monetary model. There's an active thread over at Escape Artists complaining about their donation model. There's also issues with cash flow and predictability on a donation model. |
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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2012, 04:13:43 AM » |
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Like I said, it's fine by me if it's possible to make payment by stuffing a few pounds in an envelope and licking a stamp. Credit cards on the internet is a bad idea, still, and paypal is notorious for screwing around with and stealing the money of people they don't like.
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