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« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2011, 06:28:03 AM » |
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Are "The Lurker on the Threshold" in you podcast plans? I know it is (mostly) Derleth, but i still like it  Would be awesome if you covered it |
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I say to you againe, doe not call up Any that you can not put downe; by the Which I meane, Any that can in Turne call up somewhat against you, whereby your Powerfullest Devices may not be of use. Ask of the Lesser, lest the Greater shall not wish to Answer, and shall commande more than you.
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ArkhamsRazor
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« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2011, 07:12:48 PM » |
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Well, I was wondering about this myself soon after discovering this podcast. Of course, I still have many episodes to download and enjoy from earlier months but no matter how you slice it there are only a FINITE number of these stories. Of course, you can stretch things out a bit by including the ones HPL "co-authored", especially late in his life. I'm not sure if that is the plan or not.
But, I had another quasi-vague notion. As we all know there a number of themes running through the course of HPL's work. The show could continue, although the research would be tougher (consequently reducing the number of new podcasts coming out) if you guys would explore literary themes in Lovecraft's fiction. How about a podcast on foul odors throughout the body of work? Magnificent heights? Subterranean depths? Great faintings? Mind altering experiences leading into either madness or what is precieved as madness but might, in fact, just be clarity. Those are the rather obvious ones but I'm sure we could come up with many others.
Stories could be compared with one another. For example, The Tomb and Dagon are comparable on some levels. In the former, the narrator *chooses* his course, in the latter the horror is more or less *forced* upon him. Both deal with various manifestations of the past emerging in the present but in differing respects. In Dagon the horror takes place in physical Space while The Tomb is about horror in Time. There are all sorts of ways stories can be compared and contrasted in a literary way.
When the podcast interview with Joshi was execllent. One on Price would be cool. There are other possible authorities that would be great to hear from. Also, there are number of interesting essays written by HPL. Some of these would make good Podcasts too.
Personally, I hope you guys will *not* persue the course of Derleth et al, Cthulhu ad nauseum as it were. I, for one, am rather snobbish in this regard and would prefer to continue with a pristine HPL approach.
Keep it up guys...as Robert Price himself said recently, you're doing a "great service".
~WKB
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Ruth - CthulhuChick
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« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2011, 10:39:58 PM » |
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While I'm not big into his poetry, I also liked Fungi. It's different.
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« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2011, 08:07:17 AM » |
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My thoughts:
1. I go back and listen to old podcasts multiple times, so even if the podcast ends, what a great body of work to be enjoyed and learned from for years to come, and what a great accomplishment and contribution to Lovecraft appreciation! As I go back and read stories I hadn't read before, I HAVE to then go and listen to that story's episode again - and again!
2. I love the idea of doing shows about themes, linking multiple stories together. There never seems to be quite enough time in the current episodes to fully discuss many things, so it could be an opportunity to go back and tie things together that didn't get much time before.
3. Your audio production, particularly on the readings, is very good. I would love to hear more straight readings.
4. BTW, I would pay for this also. Audiobook style.
5. I would also love to hear more music, and a re-release of Volume 1, since I wasn't around to snatch a copy the first time! Would totally pay for that also.
6. What about Best Bits compilations from past episodes?
Just my thoughts.
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« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2011, 03:09:25 PM » |
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If you enjoy this type podcast, keep contributing money via paypal, that way they can't afford to end it and will HAVE to move on the other Weird fiction authors!
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'Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.'
Robert E. Howard, "The Tower of the Elephant"
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« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2011, 06:30:23 AM » |
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That's really my driving philosophy on these bad stories. This weeks 'Very Old Folk' was a nightmare to get through. But I kept telling myself, 'you took this on. you have to get through it. If not for yourself... for them!'
And it shows Chris. It's one of many things that make this podcast so good. I listen to a lot of podcasts and HPLLP is my absolute favourite, no contest. Whatever you and Chad decide to do next I'll want to listen to it because you're able to take a piece like 'Very Old Folk' and make something interesting out of it. The tone you guys set is exactly right for HPL, a mix of mockery and awe. I'm sure most of us have felt the same when reading HPL ourselves so it's great to have that feeling of belonging to a group who love his work despite, and sometimes because of the faults. Would the same approach translate to other authors? I don't know. But one option would be to look at HPL's influences and those he influenced while referring back to HPL's own work. Broadening the picture of what you've already begun. But like I said, I'd be interested in any literary podcast you guys decide to do. |
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Ruth - CthulhuChick
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« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2011, 06:24:37 PM » |
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How could the rest of us have gotten through "The Very Old Folk" if you hadn't done a podcast? Not at all, that's how!
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TheFolklorist
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The Bishop-Fish which appeared in Poland in 1433
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« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2011, 09:41:53 PM » |
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I know the end - as in the day when Chris and Chad run out of Lovecraft stories/revisions to review - is very far away - we still have to get through "At the Mountains of Madness," which I see as being at least a 10-episode show - but I'm going to go ahead and offer my humble opinion about what they should do when that day gets here, at least at first.
Honestly I'm not particuraly keen on the idea of the podcast completely abandoning the "weird fiction" angle in favor of other books like "Catcher in the Rye" or "The Odyssey." Not that I have anything against those stories but lets face it, this is The H.P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast not The Classic Lit Podcast. Plus you guys, Chris and Chad, fill a unique niche here on the internet. If you start to branch out into the classics you'll have to worry about competing with the many, many other sites that already deal with those books and stories.
So what should Chris and Chad do?
I think once they run out of Lovecraft stories proper they should, at least at first, look into some of the Cthulhu Mythos/Lovecraft inspired stories that other writers have done. Start with Lovecraft's immediate circle. Look at those stories written by Robert E. Howard, Frank Belknap Long, Clark Ashton Smith, Robert Bloch and yes even August Derleth. I think it would be very interesting and worth everyone's time to examine some of these "Mythos" tales by these authors. How did they envision the Mythos? Is it the same as Lovecraft's vision? If not, how is it different? Do you like their stories as much as Lovecraft's? Less? More?
After all, these authors all created elements that are soon going to start appearing in Lovecraft's own stories. Smith's god Tsathoggua, for example, is going to get mentioned in "The Mound", "The Whisperer in Darkness", and "At the Mountains of Madness." So doesn't it only make sense that some time should be taken to look at the stories in which Tsathoggua originally appeared such "The Seven Geases" and "The Door to Saturn"? The same goes for Long's Hounds of Tindalos. As for Derleth I would like to know what Chris and Chad think of his Ithaqua stories.
Anyway that's just my humble suggestion in relation to the future of the podcast. Maybe Chris and Chad will like it and go with it and maybe they won't. Either I'll be with the podcast until the end.
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"I long to learn the songs the demons sing as they swoop between the stars, or hear the voices of the olden gods as they whisper their secrets to the echoing void." - Robert Bloch
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« Reply #68 on: February 04, 2011, 05:37:44 PM » |
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Speaking of which, while there are complete collections of Lovecraft's stories, are there any "complete" collections of the weird fiction of Smith, Long, et al.?
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TheFolklorist
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« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2011, 12:04:04 AM » |
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Speaking of which, while there are complete collections of Lovecraft's stories, are there any "complete" collections of the weird fiction of Smith, Long, et al.?
Yes. For Robert E. Howard there is the very handsomely illustrated "The Horror Stories of Robert E. Howard" from Del Rey Books with an introductory essay by Rusty Burke which discusses REH's relationship with Lovecraft in some detail. In this collection you will get all of REH's solo Mythos work plus much much more. If you just want REH's Mythos work then I would recommend "Nameless Cults: The Complete Cthulhu Mythos Tales Of Robert E. Howard" from Chaosium, edited by Robert Price. The one thing that "Nameless Cults" has on "The Horror Stories..." is that it also includes all of the Mythos stories that REH wrote in collaboration with other authors including one round robin with Lovecraft. For Clark Ashton Smith there is "The Collected Fantasies of Clark Ashton Smith" a five volume set from Night Shade Books. Get ready to dole out some cash for these volumes however as they are pricey. As far as I know there is no complete collection of just Smith's Mythos tales currently on the market as even Chaosium's "The Klarkash-Ton Cycle: The Lovecraftian Fiction of Clark Ashton Smith" falls terribly short, being just a collection of some of series editor Robert Price's favorite Smith stories. Centipede Press has recently released an over-sized hardcover collection of all of Frank Belknap Long's fiction. The price: $450.00 retail. Amazon will knock $166.50 off however if you really want it. For all of Long's Mythos work you can pick up the much more reasonably priced "The Tindalos Cycle" from Hippocampus Press, edited by Robert Price. It includes Long's "The Space Eaters", "The Hounds of Tindalos", "Gateway to Forever", "The Gift of Lycanthropy" (a round robin) and his novella "The Horror from the Hills" and the related poem "When Chaugnar Wakes" - all of which are more or less Mythos stories. |
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"I long to learn the songs the demons sing as they swoop between the stars, or hear the voices of the olden gods as they whisper their secrets to the echoing void." - Robert Bloch
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Kurt
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« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2011, 02:20:06 PM » |
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Maybe I'm alone in this, but I would also enjoy hearing a discussion of Lovecraft's letters after the stories have been covered. I wonder if he wrote more letters than fiction. If you've never read any of his correspondences, I very much recommend them. HPL is an example of an endangered species; that is, an author who can also discuss a depth and breadth of topics. In our day and age of ultraspecialized interests, we don't see that sort of intellectualism often.
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Kaelestes
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« Reply #71 on: February 06, 2011, 03:33:35 AM » |
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I wonder if he wrote more letters than fiction. Sooooo much more. He'd have been a blogging fiend if he'd lived a freakishly long life and been introduced to the Internet. |
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« Reply #72 on: February 06, 2011, 08:18:30 PM » |
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Yea, slimy things did crawl with legs,
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Genus Unknown
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« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2011, 12:54:25 PM » |
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So here's a thought, inspired by Lackey's comment on "The Tree." I am terrified to go back and listen to this episode. Any of the old ones, really. So young and foolish...
... how about revisits? I'm sure there are things y'all wanted to say about some stories that had to be cut due to time constraints. I'm sure your opinion of some stories has changed over time. I'm sure there's new information on some of the stories that you didn't learn about until after the episode. It wouldn't have to be a complete re-run of the series, just a flashback to any story that you wanted to revisit. Might be fun! |
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« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2011, 01:06:53 PM » |
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Genus Unknown: that is exactly what I was hoping for. Go back and do justice to this or that one. Get deep. Get silly. Track down weird details. Gather up all the loose ends. This could become a lifelong pursuit! Groundhog's Day but in ever greater detail. Chids and Sarch's offspring can eventually take up the family trade. I see it franchising out into television, Fifer vs. Lackey on CNN or something like that. Or the Fifer-Lackey News Aeon on PBS. Cool Air on NPR. Globetrotting CosPlay RPGs with stopovers in Antarctica and the International Space Station. There's always something more to do, more to learn, more more more!
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We live on a placid Rhode Island and Providence Plantations of ignorance in the midst of the black seas of an infinity of dark foreigners, and it was not meant that we should voyage too far.
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