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« Reply #180 on: June 15, 2012, 04:44:21 PM » |
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Quatermass and the Pit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLpobtwRCU. I think this may have been mentioned before, but here's a link to the full Hammer movie. I believe Lovecraft would have loved this. And I would highly suspect the screenplay writer had HPL firmly in mind when he wrote it. It fires on all the HPL cylinders brilliantly. If you look a bit more you can also find the full original BBC teleplay that was broadcasted as a serial. I would actually recommend that be watched first, because it's even more chilling than the movie, which itself is excellent. For instance, the 'recorded Martian cleansing' sequence in the original is much more accomplished, which is no slight feat considering it was done in 1955. I would also go so far as to suggest that Lifeforce is an adaptation of Quatermass and the Pit. While not a note for note remake it has all the same plot points the Quatermass and the Pit has. Enjoy!! |
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« Reply #181 on: June 18, 2012, 04:23:13 AM » |
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I watched that film, and a bunch of sequels or alternate versions. Makes me think I should post something about UFOs in the "What if ... Lovecraft had lived?!?" thread.
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« Reply #182 on: June 18, 2012, 12:54:55 PM » |
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« Reply #183 on: June 18, 2012, 03:01:40 PM » |
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What I don't get exactly, Eric, is why Nick Redfern and all those others who write about Men in Black and UFOs never seem to want to bother to actually mention "the man in black" was from the Shadow radio serials. I think. I think he was the announcer, "This is the man in black..." and I think it seriously predates Roswell, Maury, Aztec et al. The closest they come is to call Ray Palmer the Man Who Invented Flying Saucers, but that's glossed over usually as well, the fact that Ray Palmer's Amazing Stories had pictures of modern UFOs on the covers and descriptions in the stories well before people started seeing these same modern UFOs in the skies. Life imitating art, no doubt.
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« Reply #184 on: June 18, 2012, 04:39:53 PM » |
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I honestly thought the MIB phenomenon was just a twisted version of G-men or FBI agents. At least, that seems to be the persona the MIB's were emulating in order to pass as something remotely familiar.
Where's the connection to Quatermass, though?
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« Reply #185 on: June 19, 2012, 07:49:59 AM » |
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No real connection, afaik. Just sort of nebulously in the general field of UFOs and aliens, just thinking out loud...
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« Reply #186 on: June 19, 2012, 04:42:54 PM » |
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I wish I could remember the author's name and the title of the book, but years ago I read a story where the central premise was that Men in Black were members of a race of beings that cohabitate, largely unseen, with us on the Earth. It was a neat story, but it's literally been many years since I read it and the details are fuzzy.
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« Reply #187 on: June 20, 2012, 03:09:28 PM » |
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John Keel's "Our Haunted Planet," 1975?
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« Reply #188 on: June 20, 2012, 03:20:55 PM » |
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The Mothman Prophecies (also by Keel) touches on that too. It seems to have been a favorite theory of his.
John Keel was a strange man.
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« Reply #189 on: June 20, 2012, 06:26:14 PM » |
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John Keel's "Our Haunted Planet," 1975?
I wonder. I do seem to recall just reading The Mothman Prophecies. So perhaps I saw his name on another book and picked it up. Was it a novel? GU, yes, I do believe he his an odd one. But that's what makes reading The Mothman Prophecies so interesting |
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« Reply #190 on: June 21, 2012, 01:53:03 PM » |
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John Keel's "Our Haunted Planet," 1975?
... Was it a novel? Great question. Jim Mosley or one of his ilk called Keel a carnival barker. I think a lot of his stuff is fictionalized and jazzed up to sell the reader on his ideas, although he passes them off as non-fiction. "They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers" by Gray Barker is another one worth reading; I'm still in the middle of it. Tim Beckley has written some MIB books, and I think Jim Keith, too. |
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« Reply #191 on: June 21, 2012, 02:16:37 PM » |
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Keel seems to have been a "true Fortean," writing neither fiction nor non-fiction. As Fort himself put it: "I cannot say that truth is stranger than fiction, because I have never had acquaintance with either." |
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« Reply #192 on: June 22, 2012, 12:59:44 PM » |
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The one thing I'll say in Keel's defense and about The Mothman Prophecies book (but it has been a long time since I last read it) is that Keel seemed to not jump to any conclusions. It was certainly couched in leading language, but that's still the impression I got. On the assumption that the events of the book transpired as claimed, some really odd things were happening at that time in the vicinity of Point Pleasant that weren't pigeon holed easily, so it would be easy to make silly assumptions. But IIRC Keel tried to keep some rationality about him. Although IIRC again, he also seemed to feel he was part of the events going on as well.
I'll say again that the movie was very good at getting this impression across. I thought it was a very disturbing movie, in fact.
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