BookGwen
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« on: January 20, 2011, 07:33:05 AM » |
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Am I the only one sad that this is Robert M Price's last guest host slot for The Dunwich Horror? This episode had everything. Terrific guest host, one of my favorite readers, laughs and chills. Come on...Old Man Whateley big pimping? A Model T with rims? <giggles>. But the description of the dying Wilbur Whateley in the library sent shudders down my spine. Tentacles? Eyes set in his hip sockets? Yikes!
ETA: one last thought...what happened to Lavinia? Did Wilbur feed her to The Other?
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Dr.Vincent
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 11:01:58 AM » |
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Yup, now we know why poor old Wilber never tried out for the swim team like all the Marsh kids and he was definitely not prom date material. Though he might have landed a full scholarship for the Miskatonic basket ball teem.
Great show guys.
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We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity because our realtor was a lying, cheating, crazy, cultist jerk.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 04:09:37 PM » |
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Great episode! I got chills listening to Andrew Leman as he narrated the passage from the Necronomicon discussing the trans-dimensional entity Yog-Sothoth.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 09:23:57 PM » |
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I had a couple of thoughts about this episode that I just wanted to get out real quick.
1) In regards to what Old Wizard Whateley is doing with all that money Yog-Sothoth was giving him I thought the answer seemed pretty obvious. Buying cattle for the Horror to eat and home renovation. That is tearing down the walls inside the house so that the Horror, which is getting bigger all the time, will have more room to stretch its tentacles.
2) I'm intrigued by Dr. Price's point about Prof. Armitage being so quick to accept the fact that Wilbur is the byproduct of extraterrestrial gods from another dimension who want to conquer earth and then, as we will see in part three, rather quickly assembling the occult materials needed to defeat the Horror. It is almost like he's already a closet believer in Great Old Ones himself, though on the opposite side. Interestingly this was the spin that was put on his character in the 2009 SyFy channel version of The Dunwich Horror in which Armitage is imagined as a John Constantine (comic version not movie version, of course) type figure traveling around using magic to fight off incursions by the Great Old Ones.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 01:27:34 AM » |
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Well he is a professor at Miskatonic. Even the Geologists there have read the Necronomicon.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 03:29:27 AM » |
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Since I've been away I couldn't listen to part one, but on arriving back it was great to finally be able to listen to parts 1 and 2 back-to-back. Great episodes as ever and I look forwards to what I'm assuming will be the conclusion of... THE DUNWICH HORROR!
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 10:34:11 AM » |
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You say "Watt-ly" I say "Wait-ly" - lets call the whole thing off....  What ever you call him - Thanks to you guys now I'm imagining him with one gold front tooth... too funny. Great episodes...
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 12:01:47 PM » |
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I had a couple of thoughts about this episode that I just wanted to get out real quick.
1) In regards to what Old Wizard Whateley is doing with all that money Yog-Sothoth was giving him I thought the answer seemed pretty obvious. Buying cattle for the Horror to eat and home renovation. That is tearing down the walls inside the house so that the Horror, which is getting bigger all the time, will have more room to stretch its tentacles.
2) I'm intrigued by Dr. Price's point about Prof. Armitage being so quick to accept the fact that Wilbur is the byproduct of extraterrestrial gods from another dimension who want to conquer earth and then, as we will see in part three, rather quickly assembling the occult materials needed to defeat the Horror. It is almost like he's already a closet believer in Great Old Ones himself, though on the opposite side. Interestingly this was the spin that was put on his character in the 2009 SyFy channel version of The Dunwich Horror in which Armitage is imagined as a John Constantine (comic version not movie version, of course) type figure traveling around using magic to fight off incursions by the Great Old Ones.
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1. I think that's too much cyclical logic to be dead-on. By that, I mean that if you were going to do something for money, would you use the money you obtained to do the something that earned you the money? It seems a lot like getting a job but having to put your child in daycare, but only making enough to pay for the daycare, thus breaking even. Old Wizard must have had some more motive, or was making a LOT more gold than he was needing to spend. After all, the renovations were just being done by him and Wilbur, so that part couldn't have cost him all that much. I think it's one of those points that maybe we're not supposed to focus on, like how Fred Flinstone can actually move a stone vehicle loaded with people with his feet. 2. To this, I must quote George Carlin: "Paranoia: You only have to be right once to make it all worthwhile." |
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 11:19:12 PM » |
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You say "Watt-ly" I say "Wait-ly" - lets call the whole thing off.... What ever you call him - Thanks to you guys now I'm imagining him with one gold front tooth... too funny. Great episodes... I say Wait-ly. Dunwich is loosely based on Wilbraham in Western Mass down on the Connecticut line, and the Bears Den and Sentinel Hill are taken from the town of Athol almost straight to the north on the Vermont border. In between the two and a little to the west is a town called Whately which is pronounced wait-ly. Sure, it's not spelled exactly the same, but it once was. A fair number of New England towns have had variations on their spellings through the years. My own town hasn't even settled on one spelling yet. On the Fire Dept. badges it's Lanesboro, but it's Lanesborough on the Police badges. Great podcasts thus far. I've been waiting a year and a half for the H.P. Podcraft take on Colour Out of Space and Dunwich Horror. It's been a highly enjoyable wait, but I am stoked that the day has arrived. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 05:32:25 PM » |
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Re: The Wizard Whateley's gold. I always assumed the gold came from his weird knowledge, not from Yog-Sothoth. That he simply knew a lot of weird stuff, or now thinking about it, there is the chance he did necromancy and learned of caches from the dead. I never saw it as a Faustian/Websterian bargain. Whateley helps the Old Ones because he's off his freaking rocker. The gold is incidental, but adds a bit of weird.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 09:22:02 AM » |
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I always thought of the gold as a gift from Yoggie, to make their plans run more smoothly. "Need cows? Here's a nightgaunt with a chest full of dutch pirate-gold, go buy some cows so we can destroy the world already".
I think the old wizard knows what he is doing and does it willfully. Or he may just be off his rocker, but I don't think he did it for the money.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 05:29:16 PM » |
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Am I the only one sad that this is Robert M Price's last guest host slot for The Dunwich Horror? This episode had everything. Terrific guest host, one of my favorite readers, laughs and chills. Come on...Old Man Whateley big pimping? A Model T with rims? <giggles>. But the description of the dying Wilbur Whateley in the library sent shudders down my spine. Tentacles? Eyes set in his hip sockets? Yikes!
ETA: one last thought...what happened to Lavinia? Did Wilbur feed her to The Other?
I thought his analysis of the story was far too Biblical and wrong. Several times during both 'casts his point was completely contradicted by what was said by Chris and Chad from the story two seconds later. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 02:03:08 PM » |
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Yeah, I thought a few of his points were reaching a bit, particularly the analysis of Yog-Sothoth's name and the bit about how Wizard Whateley bursting into the general store is derived from The Gay Science. The only similarity I can see is that they both feature crazy old men coming into town and babbling. Surely a scene like that isn't limited to Nietzsche.
That said, Robert M. Price is the best guest they've ever had on this show. If he reaches, it just means he's questioning the text and looking for alternate explanations. His reading comprehension kung fu is strong. Also, I could listen to him talk all day.
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BookGwen
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 02:12:03 PM » |
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Yeah, I thought a few of his points were reaching a bit, particularly the analysis of Yog-Sothoth's name and the bit about how Wizard Whateley bursting into the general store is derived from The Gay Science. The only similarity I can see is that they both feature crazy old men coming into town and babbling. Surely a scene like that isn't limited to Nietzsche.
That said, Robert M. Price is the best guest they've ever had on this show. If he reaches, it just means he's questioning the text and looking for alternate explanations. His reading comprehension kung fu is strong. Also, I could listen to him talk all day.
Imagine if they had gotten S.T. Joshi to guest host along with Robert M. Price? Priceless! |
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2011, 06:10:48 PM » |
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You say "Watt-ly" I say "Wait-ly" - lets call the whole thing off.... What ever you call him - Thanks to you guys now I'm imagining him with one gold front tooth... too funny. Great episodes... I say Wait-ly. Dunwich is loosely based on Wilbraham in Western Mass down on the Connecticut line, and the Bears Den and Sentinel Hill are taken from the town of Athol almost straight to the north on the Vermont border. In between the two and a little to the west is a town called Whately which is pronounced wait-ly. Sure, it's not spelled exactly the same, but it once was. A fair number of New England towns have had variations on their spellings through the years. My own town hasn't even settled on one spelling yet. On the Fire Dept. badges it's Lanesboro, but it's Lanesborough on the Police badges. I agree. I've always read it as "Wait-ly" myself, for much the same reason. "Watt-ly" never even occurred to me. |
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