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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 09:02:10 AM » |
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So it's a good book with a bad ending?
Sure sounds like Stephen King to me. He should hire someone to write the endings for him, since he is clearly not capable himself.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 01:08:06 PM » |
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That's not always typical King. He does right by us at least as often as he fails. Stephen King's deus ex machina fetish is his problem, like he can't seem to stomach the unhappy endings he is so often building towards. I was never more upset with this tactic than with Needful Things and the sudden appearance of day saving magic from the bowels of WTF. It was a perfectly horrific story ruined by a contrived happy ending. The same was true with the hand of god in The Stand and the whole point of The Dark Tower series is deus ex machina. The Tommyknockers and Pet Sematary did us proud though. They both conclude in brilliant fashion, as do many others.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2011, 01:05:37 AM » |
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I view stephen kings problem as being a pure discovery writer and not realizing the flaws of that process. This sort of writer does not plan his books at all but simply picks a seed and lets it grow. The end result is a book who's ending is not nessesarily predicted by its begining. Deus ex Machina is latin for "I forgot to forshadow this ending."
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 09:32:30 PM » |
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I agree with all of the above analysis...which is why I will only stick to reading his short stories, King has let me down too many times with his novels (more like tomes really) for me to read them anymore.
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'Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.'
Robert E. Howard, "The Tower of the Elephant"
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 10:36:24 AM » |
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This is my theory-
Mrs. King: Dinner is ready.
Mr. King: Not now. I have to finish this book by tomorrow.
Mrs. King: I made lasagna.
Mr. King: Lasagna! I gotta finish this fast!
(writes half @$$ ending)
Mr. King: Done! Lets eat!
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MartinRonnlund
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 05:16:15 PM » |
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No other theory could explain the "giant flying turtle saves the day"-ending.
So yes, lasagna it is.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 03:53:49 AM » |
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No other theory could explain the "giant flying turtle saves the day"-ending.
So yes, lasagna it is.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 11:52:53 AM » |
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No other theory could explain the "giant flying turtle saves the day"-ending.
So yes, lasagna it is.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2011, 02:16:20 PM » |
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That damned turtle is in a lot of King stories. It's his benevolent God/Jesus character that swoops in to solve the problems for which he never conceived a solution. I thought we were well shot of the celestial shell monster back in It when the thing choked to death on a universe it was regurgitating, but no luck. He keeps coming back.
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2011, 02:56:41 PM » |
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'Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.'
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2011, 06:46:07 PM » |
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Yeah, that pretty much sums the turtle, and much of King's writing philosophy, right up. That article also reminds me how much I loved the monster, It, though. The thing is properly horrifying, embodying anything and everything you could possibly fear and goes a step further into the realm of indescribable madness referred to as the "dead lights" in the book. Its true form resides within and encompasses that endless, writhing, hateful light beyond all matter in the darkest void of space. You can liken It to many of Lovecraft's creations; the Elder Gods, Yog Sothoth, Azathoth, Cthulhu, The Colour, and others share aspects and/or descriptive references with Its true form.
L-O-V-E It.
It, the story, however, leaves me torn, and disappointed, and a little whiny. Stupid turtle.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2011, 10:47:42 PM » |
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My two cents: King is a great writer, and loves to write the story.I think he see's the end of the story as an unfortunate must. I've read a quote by him saying he doesnt care who makes movies of his books, because he is a writer and he doesn't care about how the movie turns out. Same thing with the endings, he likes to pull you in, weave a tale, set the plot and characters in motion, but doesnt give a rip about the ending. It's the journey that matters anyways.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2011, 04:30:19 PM » |
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Yeah I allways found that a bunch of bull. It may very well be all about the journey, but if it ends in a crash, then nobody's gonna be happy.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2011, 08:15:19 PM » |
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LLord of the Rings was about the Journey but the end was built into the begining. That is the essence of great writing.
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