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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 04:04:46 PM »

Dammit. Most people will now start shouting at me, but... I love it that way. I love to hang out with people and discuss the forbidden lore of the Outer Gods and let people think that we're a bunch of weird occultists. I love a genre where true fans are virtually the same as crazed cultists. I mean, "OMG! My maths prof is a manifestation of Yog-Sothoth! He teaches me non-euclidean geometry! HAIL AZATHOTH!"

Of course, it's ridiculous. HPL would have thought the same. It doesn't even fit with his universe, where the gods aren't gods, but alien beings or representations of the laws of nature. Azathoth for example clearly represents the unfeeling, impersonal nature of the universe - he's called a blind idiot god just like Fortuna was often depicted as blind or veiled.

But I think it belongs to the genre. Kind of adds to it. Intertextualism2, if you want to call it that.
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2011, 06:34:00 PM »

I hate to say it, TransconaSlim, but I don't have enough time in the day to try to decipher that thing. Was that really their official communication with you?

Bob

Yes, that's there proposal to us.  At the time, I thought the idea was only somewhat goofy and a little romantic/poetic - I mean, as a union we pride ourselves as not going with the mainstream (we have an affiliate union for homemakers and sex workers, after all).  After looking at it again, it's pretty much batshit crazy; not that I oppose professional psychics having a union, but if "real" professional psychics came and wanted to from a union, I'm sure they would want to be in the Entertainment workers union.   these folks seem to be weirdo-surrealists nutcases. 

Still, it doesn't help that our organizational structure is most often represented in the most esoteric, vaguely-occult-like way:

 
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2011, 03:32:45 PM »

Data miner is usually a synonym for domestic spy. I don't see why the Wobblies would want to join up with the enemies of labor and democracy. Professional psychics sounds like remote viewers a la Ed Dames and Ingo Swann, the scientologists who sold themselves to the Pentagon as the Real Thing. But then again, if they sent you some batshit insane pdf, they might be schismatic situationists out trolling for a laugh or a one-night stand.

I remember a few years back reading this completely serious proposal by some "real psychics" to form a regulatory body under law to weed out all the charlatans. This was in a shitty little country in Eastern Europe that shall go nameless. I thought it was pretty funny. It was supposed to unite water dowsers, extrasensory ESP people, bio-field readers, etc. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in one of their disciplinary council meetings as they recount the charges against the heretical psychic in their midst.
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2011, 01:27:53 AM »

The fact that scientology (not to mention any other "true" religion) is so popular should answer this question.
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2011, 09:55:55 AM »

The fact that scientology (not to mention any other "true" religion) is so popular should answer this question.

Yeah, I guess religions have been made up from weirder sources than HPL.
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2011, 01:55:17 PM »

I guess that Raelianism is pretty lovecraftian...
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2011, 08:15:51 PM »

I guess that Raelianism is pretty lovecraftian...

If I was a science teacher and was forced to teach "intelligent design" by Christian fundamentalists, I'd teach Raelian Intelligent Design. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2011, 12:54:15 AM »

I guess that Raelianism is pretty lovecraftian...

If I was a science teacher and was forced to teach "intelligent design" by Christian fundamentalists, I'd teach Raelian Intelligent Design. 

Not to stir the pot up more, but methinks this has a lot to say on this topic:

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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2011, 08:25:54 AM »

:::sigh::: Sometimes I really do hate being from Louisiana...

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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2011, 10:27:26 PM »

What would life be without the conspiracy theories?

The greatest conspiracy may be that there is NO conspiracy at all...
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2011, 07:03:51 AM »

The real problem with teaching Intelligent Design (intentionally capitalized here) is that it offends gnostics (intentionally not capitalized here) who know Creation is created by a blind idiot god and his archons, and is not intelligent at all. It really is pretty shoddy when you think about it, from the second law of thermodynamics to radioisotope decay to death to Jersey Shore (intentionally capitalized here and elsewhere). Why would Yaldaboath create entire peoples only to slay them all? Because he's a mad potter whose works are trodden underfoot. Unintelligent Design (provisionally capitalized) would also elicit more student response, too. I mean who doesn't have some perhaps personal and unstated complaints, criticisms and negative observations about life? Teachers can start with simple assignments to students such as "What really peeves me" and work up to a general critique of the cosmos.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2011, 07:25:30 PM »

I guess that Raelianism is pretty lovecraftian...

If I was a science teacher and was forced to teach "intelligent design" by Christian fundamentalists, I'd teach Raelian Intelligent Design. 

But it's still the same, basic thing: some otherworldly thing created life on earth. They both deny evolution.
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2011, 02:17:21 PM »

The real problem with teaching Intelligent Design (intentionally capitalized here) is that it offends gnostics (intentionally not capitalized here) who know Creation is created by a blind idiot god and his archons, and is not intelligent at all. It really is pretty shoddy when you think about it, from the second law of thermodynamics to radioisotope decay to death to Jersey Shore (intentionally capitalized here and elsewhere). Why would Yaldaboath create entire peoples only to slay them all? Because he's a mad potter whose works are trodden underfoot. Unintelligent Design (provisionally capitalized) would also elicit more student response, too. I mean who doesn't have some perhaps personal and unstated complaints, criticisms and negative observations about life? Teachers can start with simple assignments to students such as "What really peeves me" and work up to a general critique of the cosmos.

This. I will bring that up the next time I have a debate with one of those stubborn, irrational and completely unscientific Creationism guys (he: "omg, there is sientific evidence for GOD!", me: "omg, you don't even know how to write scientific!").
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